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....NOT MY PRESIDENT...NOT NOW...NOT EVER !!!!!!!!!!

DON'T BLAME ME...I VOTED FOR KERRY !!!!!!



...... "Too many good docs are getting out of the business.

......Too many OB/GYN's aren't able to practice their...their love with women all across the country."�GEORGE BUSH

Sept. 6, 2004, Poplar Bluff, Mo.

TIME TO STOP THE MADNESS. END THE "STOP LOSS" ORDER. BRING OUR MEN AND WOMEN HOME. SAVE THEIR LIVES! SAY NO TO THE DRAFT !



Mr. "BRING IT ON" Man, got his ass kicked by his own bicycle!

Scientific experiment to PROVE the economy is "ON FIRE" and there are lots of
high paying jobs being created. Heck, you can't even turn around without being offered a six figure CEO position, right? LOLOLOL...MORE of "THE BIG LIE"!
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It's hard work to try to love her as best as I can...


"You know, I think about Missy Johnson. She's a fantastic lady I met in Charlotte, North Carolina. She and her son Bryan, they came to see me. Her husband PJ got killed. He'd been in Afghanistan, went to Iraq.

You know, it's hard work to try to love her as best as I can, knowing full well that the decision I made caused her loved one to be in harm's way. "

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See, again with that "hard work" theme...everything Bush does, to him, is "hard work". But, "hard work to TRY to love her as best as I can"? ...

Yeah, nothing like some of that good Bushy lovin' when he got your husband killed.

Wonder what Laura thinks about him giving out that good Georgie Porgie LOVIN'?

 

We Better Keep the Sheriff Who Chases Away "Tare-ists"

"It's hard work. But, again, I want to tell the American people, we're doing everything we can at home, but you better have a president who chases these terrorists down and bring them to justice before they hurt us again."

 

New World Horror

 

Capitol Hill Blue: Bummer of a Year For Conservatives

"Bummer of a Year For Conservatives
By GINA HOLLAND
Jul 2, 2004, 07:56
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Justice Antonin Scalia ended the Supreme Court term with some harsh words for his colleagues.
"This court seems incapable of admitting that some matters - any matters - are none of its business," he wrote on the court's final day.

Only fellow conservative Clarence Thomas wrote more dissents than Scalia in the nine-month term that ended this week. In the final days, Scalia complained about a misguided court that "seems to view it as its mission to Make Everything Come Out Right," even with wrong rulings.

In some of his sharpest criticism, Scalia called the court irresponsible in ruling that foreign terror suspects held in Cuba may challenge their treatment in U.S. courts.

It was one in a line of decisions by the justices this year that found American courts open to lawsuits over such things as international human rights abuses, on-the-job sexual harassment, World War II-era disputes over looted property, claims that states aren't accommodating disabled citizens and allegations of unconstitutional partisan gerrymandering in legislative boundary drawing.

Justices also said that U.S. courts and their protections were available to Americans accused by the president of being enemy combatants, another defeat for the Bush administration."

 

Capitol Hill Blue: That's Why They Call Them 'Rights'

"That's Why They Call Them 'Rights'
By DALE McFEATTERS
Jul 3, 2004, 06:53
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Except for a 5-4 vote on a technicality, the Bush administration would have been 0-for-3 at the Supreme Court on terrorism cases.
The court ruled that the Guantanamo detainees have the right to argue their incarceration before U.S. federal courts and so too can U.S.-born Saudi Yaser Esam Hamdi, who may now use his crack at the courts to try to invoke his constitutional rights as an American. That might open him to treason charges, but he can try.

That leaves Jose Padilla, who is incontestably an American citizen, although as a petty criminal not one of our best. Padilla's plea for due process was sent back on the technical grounds that he had filed in the wrong federal district and named the wrong respondent.

But the court made clear in its just-ended term that the Bush antiterrorism policy of brushing aside U.S. and international law to imprison incommunicado and indefinitely people it deemed illegal combatants is over. "
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'Bout damn time!

 

Capitol Hill Blue: White House Lawyer Whines About Court Upholding Freedoms

"White House Lawyer Whines About Court Upholding Freedoms
By Staff and Wire Reports
Jul 9, 2004, 18:45
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Solicitor General Theodore Olson used his final day as the Bush administration's top Supreme Court lawyer to lament the court's decision siding with foreign terrorism suspects over the president.
He said Friday that the court term that ended last week held no good news for conservatives, especially the ruling that opened American courts to "enemy combatants" being held at the U.S. military base in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.

"U.S. courts ... have never been extended so far," Olson told members of the Federalist Society, a conservative legal group.

Olson, whose wife died in the plane that crashed into the Pentagon during the Sept. 11 attacks, had argued before the justices that the president needed broad powers to hold and interrogate foreigners who might pose future threats without giving them access to courts.

The Supreme Court disagreed 6-3 and handed the Bush administration a separate loss in ruling that American citizens being held as enemy combatants in the United States also cannot be denied legal rights."
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I never liked Olson, and though I am sorry he lost his wife, while she was alive, she acted like a bitchy, Republican reactionary on every program I saw her own. She was attractive externally, but apparently ugly on the inside, from my perspective.

 

Chow Yun-Fat 'Can't Stand' U.S. Lifestyle

"Chow Yun-Fat 'Can't Stand' U.S. Lifestyle

Chow Yun-Fat and his wife arrive at the 73rd annual Academy Awards Sunday, in this March 25, 2001 file photo, in Los Angeles. Chow Yun-fat says he can't stand the American way of life and has no plans to pursue U.S. permanent resident status. (AP Photo/Laura Rauch, File)


HONG KONG — Chow Yun-Fat says he can't stand the American way of life and has no plans to pursue U.S. permanent resident status. "I can't stand talking English every day or the lifestyle there ... not to mention the food," the Hong Kong-born film star was quoted as saying in Friday's editions of Chinese-language newspaper The Sun.

"I only go to America for work," he said. "When I finish work, I leave immediately. I won't stay one day longer."
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Note to Chow...you're "BU HAO"....stay in China DUDE....
I will never pay to see another one of your movies, so
you don't have to come back here. You can't act your way
out of a paper bag anyway!

 

Praying Fan Barred From Contacting Gibson

"Praying Fan Barred From Contacting Gibson

Australian movie superstar Mel Gibson is shown in Sydney in this April 22, 2002, file photo. Gibson obtained a temporary restraining order against a man who allegedly showed up at his estate and the chapel he attends, demanding they pray together. Zack Sinclair, 34, was arrested Sept. 20, 2004, for investigation of disorderly conduct and loitering and remained jailed Friday, Oct. 1, on $5,000 bail pending an Oct. 6 court hearing. (AP Photo/Rob Griffith, File)


MALIBU, Calif. — Mel Gibson obtained a temporary restraining order against a man who allegedly showed up at his estate and the chapel he attends, demanding they pray together. Zack Sinclair, 34, was arrested Sept. 20 for investigation of disorderly conduct and loitering and remained jailed Friday on $5,000 bail pending an Oct. 6 court hearing.

The restraining order was issued a day after his arrest, and bars him from coming within 150 yards of Gibson, his wife or their seven children. He also cannot contact the actor.

Sinclair allegedly went to the gate of Gibson's estate twice in September and asked to pray with the actor. He was first ordered away and then detained.

In a court filing, Gibson said the man interrupted his worship Sept. 19 at a chapel and "demanded that I pray with him." The filmmaker's bodyguard escorted Sinclair out."
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Christian stalkers...the WORST!
:)

 

Why Bush is Bad for the USA

Look, Bush seems like an asshole, and from a purely "popularity contest" stance, that alone is enough reason to vote against his re-election.

But, if you are TRULY a conservative, not a NEO-CON, then you are for LESS government, not MORE...and Bush CLEARLY has created MORE government...just look at that Homeland Security nonsense and the Patriot Act and the expansion of government power over your life!

If you are for closing the borders, look at what Bush has done...he's made them more permeable down south than a hurricane fence is to dust.

If you are anti-globalism, "W" and "POPPY" Bush are some of the biggest globalist and job outsourcing guys there are!

We are going into the poorhouse with this guy.

Any of these reasons would be enough. Perhaps you can look around and see the unemployment going on and figure, if this keeps up, you may lose YOUR job under a Bush presidency.

 

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Capitol Hill Blue: Debate Win Gives Kerry Much-Needed Momentum

"Debate Win Gives Kerry Much-Needed Momentum
By JOHN WHITESIDES
Oct 2, 2004, 06:47
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President Bush lashed out at Democratic challenger John Kerry's "confusing contradictions" on Friday after a feisty first debate that gave new momentum to Kerry, who said Americans had finally heard the two rivals "talk about the truth."

Kerry's mood more upbeat after debate.
(AP Photo/Gerald Herbert)
The day after the first of three face-to-face encounters between the White House contenders, Kerry aides were buoyed by a flurry of polls crowning their candidate the winner and showing improved voter perceptions of him.

Bush responded aggressively at campaign stops in New Hampshire and Pennsylvania. He ridiculed the Massachusetts senator's call for an international summit on Iraq and his remark that a preemptive U.S. strike should pass "a global test" of understanding and legitimacy.

"Last night Senator Kerry only continued his pattern of confusing contradictions," Bush said in Allentown, Pennsylvania, a crucial battleground state in the Nov. 2 election."
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That last statement proves it...Bush is mentally ill!

 

The Fallacy of Evolution


This article isns't about Bush. It's about evolution.

First off...please do not believe for one second that I believe in that "creation science " nonsense ! I don't really believe in evolution either though. Now, if my friend Tom reads these, he is tearing his hair out, but Tom, before you tear your hair, a few thousand words of explanation. Firstly, when people hear the word "Evolution", they usually think of the theory forwarded by Charles Darwin. Darwin certainly was not the first, nor the only human to promote the notion of evolution of the species.

Alfred Russel Wallace also had a theory of evolution.
http://www.nearctica.com/evolve/history.htm

Now, both science and medicine WANT evolution to be accepted, because, they both want to promote the idea that humans are like organic billiard balls knocked to and fro by physics, biochemistry, and all the physical laws. They want to resolve humans to merely a reflection of physics and biochemistry. Not so quick my evolutionary friends.

First off, let's deal with this notion of an African origin to humans. This is something I have fought for decades. I believe that man most probably arose in China or Mongolia, but this article is not the forum for a full dissertation on my views of a Sinological birthplace to man.

Here is an interesting page about early man in China.
http://www.chineseprehistory.org/
http://www.chineseprehistory.org//table.htm

And another
http://anthro.palomar.edu/homo/homo_2%20.htm
"Dubois' claims for his Java Homo erectus finds were not widely accepted until the 1930's, when the German/Dutch paleontologist Gustav von Koenigswald made similar discoveries in the Dutch East Indies. By that time, there had also been even more convincing discoveries of Homo erectus in China. Dubois stubbornly refused to accept any of these fossils as being from the same species as his "Java Man" specimens.

Dating the Java Homo erectus fossils has been difficult. In the past, it was generally accepted that most of these bones are 700,000-500,000 years old based roughly on the presumed date for the geological strata in which they were found. In 1994, however, radiometric dating of sand particles attached to two of the fossils indicated that they were actually 1.8 and 1.6 million years old. Critics have suggested that the true age may be nearer to 1.5 million years. If any of these very early dates are correct, it implies that some Homo erectus left Africa soon after they evolved from Homo habilis."


I found a very intersting page on this topic.
http://exn.ca/hominids/home.cfm
"The same thing might have just happened to our understanding of human prehistory with the radioactive dating of Nanjing Man.

Nanjing Man is the name given to a Homo erectus fossil found in China. He was thought to be around 400,000 years old. But, last month, a quartet of scientists from China and Australia re-dated Nanjing Man using uranium-series dating and found he was actually at least 620,000 years old.

This made the scientists question the dates given to other major archaeological finds - finds that have come to shape evolutionary theory as the world knows it.

Suddenly, Nanjing Man became the catalyst for an evolutionary coup d'etat that could end Mitochondrial Eve's reign as the most accepted theory of human evolution.

The Mitochondrial Eve theory claims Homo sapien populations migrated from Africa between 100,000 and 200,000 years ago and replaced Homo erectus populations wherever they went.

But, based on his new age, Nanjing Man could very well be chalked up as another victory for the less-popular multi-regional model of evolution.

Multi-regionalism argues that modern Asian populations were not replaced by African sapiens. Instead, they evolved directly from Asian Homo erectus and Nanjing Man's new age would provide more time for this evolutionary process to have occurred.

Nanjing Man's age and his implications for evolutionary theory have prompted the Chinese-Australian team of scientists who dated him to re-date other major archaeological finds using the uranium-series dating technique that derived Nanjing Man's age.

"Many Homo erectus sites are not well-dated," says Dr. Ken Collerson, a member of the team who dated Nanjing Man.

This is because of the limited capabilities or questionable results from other dating techniques such as electron-spin resonance, which Collerson refers to as "in the realms of alchemy."

By re-dating major archaeological finds, Collerson says he thinks the multi-regional theory of evolution will displace the Mitochondrial Eve theory as the most accepted evolutionary model."


MY REASONS FOR A SINOGENESIS ORIGIN THEORY
OK, I know that my reasons for starting to believe humans originally arose in China or Mongolia will not make sense to most scientists. This notion arose after I started finding little odd facts here and there, and over time, put these facts which often seemed either to be irrelevant, or conflicting with more established notions, i.e. the anthropolical orthodoxy.

I combined the theory of "ontology recapitulates phylogeny" with various odd findings such as the "birth defect" called "Mongolian spots".

Now, the "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" notion, is an idea that the true believers in evolution, those who drink from the evolutional Darwin koolaid deeply, SHOULD LOVE!

It basically says that if one observes the morphological changes of a developing conceptus, one will see changes that, in the development of the individual, mirror changes which were evolutionary steps in the development of the species.

To better explain that, if, in the development of a species, an ancestor of an animal had a tail, one should see a tail at some stage in the development of a member of that species. Humans, during their development in utero, demonstrate stages where they have pharyngeal gill slits, AND a tail.

Is this inconsistent with the reachings of the Bible? I say no. If man was created in the image of God, then what about these changes before birth? They are EXACTLY what I believe the Bible is talking about when it says this.

"What is the image of the invisible God? The firstborn of every living creature."

To me, man going through all these stages, as other creatures go stages reflecting traits of other animals, is like God in that God is the sum total of all things, and his vitality reflects all living creatures from conception to birth.

Anyone who studies human development in utero, will see that early development reflects a creature with a facial area which is small relative to overall cranial size. The early human, in its earliest stages, shows a cranium which is closer to the configuration of the Asian skull than the African or Caucasian skull, and thus, if we follow the ontogeny recapilates phylogeny, we would assume that the Asian skull developed earlier in man's "evolution".

OK...back to Mongolian spots. What are they?
A picture an explanation is found here
http://www.fwcc.org/mongolianspot.htm

"Mongolian Blue Spots are flat birthmarks with wavy borders and irregular shapes, common among people of Asian, East Indian, African, and Latino heritage. They may be seen in about 10% of Caucasians to over 90% of African Americans. Bluish gray to deep brown to black skin markings, they often appear on the base of the spine, on the buttocks and back and even sometimes on the ankles or wrists. Mongolian spots may cover a large area of the back. The pigmented area has large concentrations of skin cells called melanocytes, with normal skin texture. They commonly appear at birth or shortly after birth and may look like bruises."


Here is a more technical page that touches on Mongolian spots.
http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/002207.html
") Limited data sets can skew perception. The term "Mongolian Blue Spot" is a misnomer if you look at the prevelance of the trait among Africans and other dark-skinned populations. This site asserts that the spot is more common among "dark skinned babies," though I suspect this impression comes from the fact that the writer is probably American, and most children with the Mongolian Blue Spot in the United States are probably black or Hispanic. In a similar fashion, a Masai warrior might assume that lactose tolerance is a Masai trait and that northern Europeans must have Masai ancestry since they have no problem consuming raw milk (or the reverse, and I believe recent research has implied that there were multiple mutations that allowed for metabolization of lactose in adults, implying no common ancestry).

Mongolian spots are MOST prevalent (as one might conclude from the name), among Asians.
http://www.emedicine.com/derm/topic271.htm
"History: An asymptomatic bluish discoloration overlying the sacrococcygeal area is present at birth.

Physical:

Mongolian spots consist of blue-gray macular pigmentation. The distinctive skin discoloration is due to the deep placement of the pigment in the dermis, which imparts a bluish tone to the skin from the Tyndall effect of scattered light (see Picture 1).
Typically, it is a few centimeters in diameter, although much larger lesions also can occur.
Most commonly, it involves the lumbosacral area, but the buttocks, flanks, and shoulders may be affected in extensive lesions.
Several variants exist, as follows:
Persistent Mongolian spots are larger, have sharper margins, and persist for many years.

Aberrant Mongolian spots involve unusual sites such as the face or extremities.
Persistent aberrant Mongolian spots also are referred to as macular-type blue nevi.

Mongolian spots have been associated with cleft lip, spinal meningeal tumor, melanoma, and phakomatosis pigmentovascularis.

Causes: Mongolian spot is a hereditary developmental condition caused by entrapment of melanocytes in the dermis during their migration from the neural crest into the epidermis."

Now, READ THIS
http://www.parenting.com/parenting/experts/0,17704,9466,00.html
"The bruise-like marks you noticed on your friend's baby are a common birthmark called "Mongolian Spots." This term stems from the fact that descendants from the original Mongolian empire — Asians, Hispanics, African Americans, and even Native Americans — inherit this quirk. These spots, occur in around 90 percent of Asians, Hispanics, and African Americans, and sometimes even in Caucasians.

They're most common on the lower back, buttocks, and the back of the thighs. They are usually present at birth or shortly after, but most fade partly or completely by the time the child enters school. Occasionally, the spots will persist in varying degrees throughout adulthood. These common birthmarks are caused by a large concentration of melanocytes (cells that contain dark pigment) that collect beneath the skin. The extra cluster of cells poses no risk of skin cancer or any other disease. They are harmless and require no treatment, but may pose a social concern — as you have realized."

Let me selectively quote from this passage.
"This term stems from the fact that descendants from the original Mongolian empire — Asians, Hispanics, African Americans, and even Native Americans — inherit this quirk. These spots, occur in around 90 percent of Asians, Hispanics, and African Americans, and sometimes even in Caucasians."

He is saying that African Americans, Native Americans, Hispanics, are descendants of the Mongolian empire, and that's why Mongolian spots are common in those people.

I think the Mongolian spot is a very, very old birth condition, passed on genetically, and is a marker for a sinogenetic origin to humans. I cannot defend this notion to folks who already have an African origin to humans firmly fixed in their minds, but, it is hard to change the minds of many people who get fixated on a notion to the exclusion of contradictory facts.

Now, because these spots are relatively rare in white folks, does it mean that white folks evolved somewhere else? Not necessarily, because it is possible over the millenia, that this genetic trait was selectively removed from the Caucasian branch of Homo sapiens.

EVOLUTION AS A RELIGION
Those who believe in religion generally do so based on faith, which is the evidence of things not seen and the substance of things hoped for...in other words, you believe something is a certain way without demonstrable objective proof.

That's why I assert that the prevailing theories of human origin coming from evolution of more primitive species, is a religion...it is really NOT based on good science.

Why do I say such a thing?

Easily...here's why. For evolution to "work", it all rests on genetic mutations...plain and simple. But, not just ANY mutations, but what I call "positive mutations". What I mean by positive mutations is that a mutation, to be a positive mutation, must make an INDIVIDUAL more fit for survival in the existing environment and functional mileu, than those who do NOT carry the mutation.

The morphing of one creature into another, depends on a collection of positive mutations which are carried down from one generation to the other, are cumulative, AND, which work in concert with all other PREVIOUS retained positive mutations.

But, "positive mutations" are exceedingly rare. Those who have worked with the fly called "Drosophila", from which one can derive several generations in a relatively short period of time, know this. The vast, vast majority of genetic mutations are harmful and make the young mutated creature, less viable, NOT more so.

Thus, the notion that exceedingly (and I mean exceedingly!) rare mutations, will be retained generation after generation in the face of changing ecological and environmental conditions, and that they will accumulate in a primate to the point that a human will evolve from an extremely simple organism, stretches ones credibility to the limit.

This page claims most mutations are NOT harmful:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/mutations.html#Q1 .

They are wrong, plain and simple.

On that page, they refer to what I call "positive mutations" as "favorable mutations" and they say this.
"For a number of reasons it is not simple to give examples of favorable mutations. First of all, as we have seen, traits [6] may be favorable or unfavorable, depending upon the environment. Secondly it is not usually known to what extent a trait is genetically fixed and to what extent it reflects a reaction to the environment. Thirdly we don't usually know what genes effect which traits. Moreover a mutation may be favorable in the sense that it permits survival in an unfavorable environment and yet be unfavorable in a better environment."

This is a bunch of horse crap. They are trying to back track and muddy the waters in this matter, because, as I have noted, evolution, without a series of positive mutations, retained in one race, and added to subsequent, SPONTANEOUS mutations, does not work. The whole theory is based on this mechanism and it is statistically, just impossible.

It's the old idea that if you give a room full of monkeys keyboards, and an infinite lifespan, would they be able to, by accident, create the works of Shakespeare. Although we haven't developed immortal chimps and been able to carry out this thought experiment in full, limited experiments in this area have revealed that this is also an impossible idea.

Because most evolutionists have seen it is darn near impossible to find a fossil record demonstrating a gradual change from one species to another, many are talking about the notion of "punctuated equilibrium".

From http://pespmc1.vub.ac.be/PUNCTUEQ.html , we read :
"instead of a slow, continuous movement, evolution tends to be characterized by long periods of virtual standstill ("equilibrium"), "punctuated" by episodes of very fast development of new forms.

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The "punctuated equilibrium" theory of Niles Eldredge and Stephen Jay Gould was proposed as a criticism of the traditional Darwinian theory of evolution. Eldredge and Gould observed that evolution tends to happen in fits and starts, sometimes moving very fast, sometimes moving very slowly or not at all. On the other hand, typical variations tend to be small. Therefore, Darwin saw evolution as a slow, continuous process, without sudden jumps. However, if you study the fossils of organisms found in subsequent geological layers, you will see long intervals in which nothing changed ("equilibrium"), "punctuated" by short, revolutionary transitions, in which species became extinct and replaced by wholly new forms. Instead of a slow, continous progression, the evolution of life on Earth seems more like the life of a soldier: long periods of boredom interrupted by rare moments of terror"

I believe this punctuated equilibrium is MORE consistent with some sort of "guided change". Meaning, there may be an external intelligence, which has employed methods to subtly direct the changes occuring in species, or, creating these new organisms, de novo.

Punctuated equilibrium, I assert, flies in the face of the whole notion of developmental evolution. It means that several positive mutations happen SIMULTANEOUSLY. This is just statistically impossible I assert. A fish doesn't just one day decide somehow they will produce a baby frog!

Evolutionists, nonetheless, do their best to defend this indefensible notion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuated_equilibrium. There are several pages on the Net that go on ad nauseum defending this as a workable dynamic in evolution, and to them I say....POPPYCOCK! :)

Now, onto a topic that most evolutions wish you wouldn't look into.

Where the hell did Cro Magnon man come from?

CRO-MAGNON
Cro-Magnon man has been a topic I have been personally fascinated about for around 46 years. They spring almost "sui generis" in the fossil record, full grown, modern men with art and technology, and, embarassing for evolutionists, they appear to have been contemporaries with Neanderthal man...and most believe they even shared geographical areas such as hunting grounds with Neanderthals. In other words, quite frankly, they were literally Neanderthal's neighbors!

Who were the Cro-Magnon?
One site says this.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/cromagnon.html
"Discovered by workmen in 1868 at Cro-Magnon, in the village of Les Eyzies in France. The estimated age of the site is 30,000 years. The site yielded 5 skeletons (3 adult males, an adult female, and a child) which had been buried there, along with stone tools, carved reindeer antlers, ivory pendants, and shells. The Cro-Magnons lived in Europe between 35,000 and 10,000 years ago. They are virtually identical to modern man, being tall and muscular and slightly more robust on average than most modern humans. They were skilled hunters, toolmakers and artists famous for the cave art at places such as Lascaux, Chauvet, and Altamira.
The skull at right is Cro-Magnon 1, is a male with a brain size of 1600 cc, some 200 cc larger than the average modern human.

If Cro-Magnons were modern humans, does that mean that modern humans are Cro-Magnons? Not really. Logically, many modern humans should be, since most modern Europeans are probably descended from them. But the term has no taxonomic significance and usually just refers to Europeans in a certain time range, even though other modern humans were living throughout much of the world at the same time. To quote the Oxford Companion to Archaeology:

Cro-magnons are, in informal usage, a group among the late Ice Age peoples of Europe. The Cro-Magnons are identified with Homo sapiens sapiens of modern form, in the time range ca. 35,000-10000 b.p. ...
The term 'Cro-Magnon' has no formal taxonomic status, since it refers neither to a species or subspecies nor to an archaeological phase or culture. The name is not commonly encountered in modern professional literature in English, since authors prefer to talk more generally of anatomically modern humans. They thus avoid a certain ambiguity in the label 'Cro-Magnon', which is sometimes used to refer to all early moderns in Europe (as opposed to the preceding Neanderthals), and sometimes to refer to a specific human group that can be distinguished from other Upper Paleolithic humans in the region. Nevertheless, the term 'Cro-Magnon' is still very commonly used in popular texts because it makes an obvious distinction with the Neanderthals, and also refers directly to people rather than to the complicated succession of archaeological phases that make up the Upper Paleolithic. This evident practical value has prevented archaeologists and human paleontologists - especially in continental Europe - from dispensing entirely with the idea of Cro-Magnons."

Now, the author of that page seems to indicate the probability that modern humans "came from" Cro-Magnon man. If so, it tends to indicate mankind has had a shrinking of brain size since Cro-Magnon. Their brain capacity was demonstrably larger than ours, and , from skeletal reconstructions, it is often estimated these guys averaged about six feet in height. So, since most modern Caucasians are not quite that tall, it would also mean modern man's brain is smaller, but that modern man's stature has shrunk comared to Cro-Magnon.

I find this next page kind of interesting.
http://library.thinkquest.org/26070/data/eng/2/2.html?tqskip1=1#12
"One of the first sapiens sapiens is the Cro-Magnon man. This species was first found in 1856 in a cave in the Dordogne in France. The bones and the skull looked almost the same as that of the modern man, but 30.000 years older. The men were, on average, 1.80 meter tall, women 1.65 meter. They were strongly built and had a chin and no eyebrowridge anymore. The Cro-Magnon man would not be recognised in the street these days. The tools of the Cro-Magnon men became more beautiful and more useful. Result of these advances was that they could hunt much better. They hunted a lot. This could mean that they had to fill many mouths.


Fig 1.6:
sapiens sapiens
We belong to the sapiens sapiens, which first appeared 120.000 years ago. He had a larger forehead, the brain size was smaller than the Neandertals, about 1350 cc. About 40.000 years ago, at appearance of the Cro-Magnon culture, tool kits started to become more sophisticated significantly, using a wider variety of raw materials such as bone and antler, and containing new implements for fabrication of clothes, engraving and sculpting. Fine work, in the shape of decorated tools, beads, ivory carvings of humans and animals, clay figures, musical instruments, and spectacular cave paintings appeared over the next 20.000 years. 100.000 Years ago, humans were more robust than now, that is why they are sometimes called 'primitives'."

The co-existence of Cro-Magnon with Neanderthals have led to theories about whether the disappearance of Neanderthals was somehow an effect of Cro-Magnon interactions.

The two basic theories are that Cro-Magnon either wiped out the Neanderthals by war, i.e. literally raiding and selectively killing Neanderthals, or taking over their territory and depriving them of food and raw materials, OR that they bred with them and absorbed the Neanderthal race into the Cro-Magnon line, causing a generation of hybrids with both Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon traits. This dilution of the Cro-Magnon bloodline, would effectively destroy both groups by blurring their morphological characteristics (e.g., the browridge of the Neanderthal disappers in subsequent Neanderthal-Cro-Magnon pairings).

I think the latter theory is just nuts, plain and simple. The notion that large, erect, perhaps Nordic looking Cro-Magnons, would catch and have sex with a female Neanderthal, with large, buck liked teeth, humongous brow ridge, poor hygeine, etc., just strikes me a bit perverse, like a modern man having sex with an ape and producing an offspring.

I assert that the Cro-Magnons were a different speciecs from Neanderthals and were not capable of producing a viable offspring, even though, some claim to have found limited individuals which they claim have the characteristics of both.

http://www.elephant.se/cro-magnon.php?open=Elephant%20training
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Cro-Magnon Man
Homo sapiens sapiens

Our ancestor, the Cro Magnon Man is the earliest known modern man, Homo sapiens sapiens, and they lived from about 45,000 to 10,000 years ago in the Upper Paleolithic period of the Pleistocene epoch. The Cro Magnon man is named after its first findings, they were discovered by Louis Lartet and Henry Christy in March of 1868 in the Cro Magnon cave at Dordogne, France. The remains were those of 3 adult males, 1 adult female, and one infant. Cro Magnon probably developed in asia, migrated to europe, and co-existed with Neanderthal man for a time (eventually they drove the Neandertals into exctinction) and flourished in southern Europe during the last glacial age. In Europe, by convention, Cro-Magnon times (the Upper Paleolithic) ended together with Pleistocene 11,000 years ago.
They were tall like modern humans, their skull had no brow ridges, was thin, rounded, with a high forehead, with a projecting chin. Average brain size:about 1,350 milliliters (same as today).
As their oral anatomy were identical to modern humans, they could probably speak. They were our ancestor.

Aurignacian culture

(Painting by Zdenek Burian)Cro Magnons are associated with the Aurignacian culture, (occurred between 38,000 and 22,000 years ago) and hunted mainly with spears, (bow and arrows were later developed). Cro Magnon made tools from blades of Flint stone, used for preparing animal skins. Significant innovations was pierced shells, tooth and bone pendants used for body ornamentation. Their art extended to Venus figures, ritual statuettes of bone, and they made outline cave wall drawings of wolly rhinos, mammoths, cave lions and cave bears.

Cro-Magnon’s used colors like red, black and brown from different types of berries and other materials, like fire coal. Both Neanderthals and Cro-Magnon feasted on a wide variety of ungulate species including reindeer, roe deer and horse. But although the Cro Magnon belonged to a hunting culture, were semi-nomadic following the movements of the animals during the seasons, and sometimes made huts and dwellings constructed of mammoth bones and lined with limestone slabs, tooth analysis indicates that they were not as extreme carnivorous as Neanderthals, they probably ate a wide range products, including collected plants. "


I think that what happened was that the Cro-Magnons just out technologied the Neanderthals. I think they developed hunting weapons that enabled them to kill large animals from a greater distance, and more safely than the Neanderthals and they got to, and killed these protein sources which the Neanderthals depended heavily upon. They also, I think, were omniverous, and were able to use a wider range of food sources and this gave them a competitive advantage over the Neanderthals. They just won the food competition. I also believe the Cro-Magnons probably did kill some of the Neanderthal hunter/warriors, and the effects of all these, just basically starved the Neanderthals to extinction.

But, we have to get back to where the Cro-Magnons came from. In something akin to the ultimate in "punctuated equilibrium", an erect, large brained, gracile faced human, complete with complex society and technology, just suddenly springs forth in the fossil record without any gradual change from earlier progenitors.

I find that hard to defend from an evolutionary standpoint.

~Code

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